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Guida 2001:433 donzela

 

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SubjectAlamanda {PC 12a} PersonCreatedJeanroy: Limousin, "donzelle"/suivante de la dame de Giraut de Borneil, qui portait le même nom; BS 45 n1 Jeanroy la rejette de sa liste de trobairitz; B-S p45, peut-être Estang, canton de Cazaubon, arr Condom (Gers); Bogin 1976:170 in a razo to the tenso between Alamanda and Guiraut, she is "una domna de Gascoina … N'Alamanda d'Estancs" ; DOM Supl1 tenson [PilletC et Frank 242,69] 1168 [GRLMA II.1.7: 442]; GRLMA II.1.7: 433 (vida) 1175-1199; BEdT 1999/07/27 generazione 3= 1170-1210; BEdT on-line v.1.5 / v.2.0 2009-02-22 Interlocutrice di Giraut de Borneill nella tenzone 242,069, S'ie.us quier conseill, bel' amig' Alamanda, da alcuni ritenuta fittizia; (Guida 2001:418) GuirBorn's PC 242,069 (the metric model for Bertran de Born's "D'un sirventes no.m cal far loignor ganda") probably composed 1170-1180; S Guida 2001:425 Alam non è (come dice la vida) amata da GirBorn, ma la sua interlocutrice; 2001:428 "la vera nobildonna amata da GirBornelh, Escaronha de l'Isla-Jordan"; DBT 30-32 most opinion favors un dibattito fittizio by GuirBorn; but Guida found evidence of Gascon castle of Estanc (Stagnum), whose daughters XII-XIV named Alamanda; Guida identifie Alamanda à Alamanda d’Estanc (Armagnac) [in AIEO-6 Rayonnement, 2001, 411-433; BYU la liste de Bartsch1872 ne mentionne pas cette trobairitz; Wikipedia Pour certains elle ne ferait qu'une seule et même personne avec Alamande de Castelnau, née en 1160 dans cette même ville, puis qui après avoir fréquenté la cour de Toulouse serait morte abbesse de Saint-Étienne de Toulouse en 1223; eng.wiki mentioned by three other troubadours, including the trobairitz Lombarda; EWPoe, Tenso 7/2 (1992): 143: “…few modern scholars regard her as anything more than a product of the troubadour’s (and the biographer’s) imagination.” Guida 2001: 408 agrees fully that Alamanda was a trobairitz;
SubjectBona domna, tan vos ai fin coratge {PC 461,56} InformationCreated byBEdT on-line: discussione tra una "domna" e una "donzela"; Guida 2001:433 la "donzela" = la giovane Alamanda d'Estanc, la "bona domna" = Escaronha Jordan; only in R 35 (292); DBT p.433 {461,56} is by Escaronha AND Alamanda: A d’Estanc [“donzela”] promotrice del dialogo in versi AND Escaronha Jordan is the “bona domna” who answers;